23 Mar


The IPCC has been in my mind a lot recently, it featured in a short exchange with my friend @occupypolice on Friday evening over on Twitter and has been in the news a lot recently also, for various reasons notably the Mark Duggan investigation , Plebgate, Dame Anne Owers comments in the Guardian  re Officer’s silence and the Police Federation’s response to the right to silence which subsequently ensued.  I make no comment on these issues, you can read and form your own.

All these things have added to my concern that ANY group of people, whether the Public or the Police should have the SAME rights as each other.  In my mind it is simply THIS:

No one is more or less equal than another person and these rights should be not skewed in any way, shape or form, that could be perceived as presuming either innocence or guilt.  

I feel that the balance may possibly be shifting away from this point.

Added to this  is the fact that the IPCC is formed by appointment of the Home Secretary, not an elected body, the political view of the Government of the day MAY be unequally represented by such a body.  I am not casting aspersions, merely being aware that such a possibility exists.  Who does the IPCC account to?  I believe it is the Home Secretary.  A grey process  to me.  I think the IPCC is unfortunate in that whomever feels more aggrieved by their outcome will probably feel that the IPCC is biased against them, whether this be the Public or the Police, True or False.  How then can this be addressed?  Should the Chair be an elected person as @MrCliveC suggested to me?

I don’t have a definitive solution to the problem, at the moment I am biased towards distrusting any organisation that seeks to give different levels of rights to different groups.  Do you have an opinion on the IPCC?  I would love to hear it!


Jules  😉


4 Responses to “IPCC”

  1. John Wood March 23, 2014 at 6:42 pm #

    No one is more or less equal than another person and these rights should be not skewed in any way, shape or form, that could be perceived as presuming either innocence or guilt.
    Surely there is a need when discussing rights to asses motivation of an individual. What if I seek to assert my rights as defined in Sharia law (I chose that as the example cos my brain is old and tired – not coming from bias) There are many extremists who are troubled and deluded – what ‘rights’ might they claim?

    • julieanneda March 23, 2014 at 7:05 pm #

      Another salient point! I take my starting point as the law as it stands here atm. I like that you prompt me to think more carefully about my words.

  2. Geronimo Ca$h (@GeronimoCash) August 12, 2014 at 6:04 pm #

    Officers should have rights but the problem with the IPCC is it is not unknown for a Police Officer from the Force being complained about are acting on secondment as an IPCC Case Worker. We cannot expect the Public to not be concerned that the Police can be seen as investigating themselves. Total mess and has to be replaced by a system that is truly Independent.

    That not only benefits the Public, it also benefits officers. Remember a serving or ex officer does not have the right to issue a complaint against their own Force. The Force can block them. Which is nothing more than a whistleblower silencing rule.

    • julieanneda August 12, 2014 at 6:06 pm #

      I concur! The present system is flawed

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